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 I won the genetic lottery, its random, luck. 



 All three are about taking a risk. 


 Fell in love. 


"Caffeine, treadmill for the brain."
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How would you describe your creative process?

 I work with a practiced level of concentration yet I'm 

 relaxed and ready to respond to my thoughts and ideas. 

Is it the same in the Fire Department?

 It's the same but different, it begins with concentration and   is supported by training.  An emergency doesn't offer time to   think so you need to respond quickly and act with purpose.   Being creative isn't an emergency but requires a level of   spontaneity to be successful. 

With so much to think about how does it stay together? 

 When you train with intent and accurately identify the   priorities then you'll see what opportunities are available 

 and how best to deploy resources and people. Once that's 

 in play you then have actions to focus on. 


How much does experience influence decision making?

 Being familiar with certain fire behaviours gives you the   edge because you're able to quickly identify threats and   decide on being offensive or defensive. Again, concentration   is important as it leads too consistency which leads to   confidence. 

 What does it mean to be a professional? 

 Every decision I made was peer reviewed and each year   there was a list of re-certifications so I was expected to   consistently perform at the highest levels. The little success   I've had with my art is because I understood how to apply   these fundamentals to being creative. As a result I was taken   seriously by professional people in music. 

What are some of your musical influences?

 I graduated in 1972 so that's where I'm coming from 

 but I like any music that has relatable emotional 


What's your biggest achievement with your art?

 Raising over 35K for the White Helmets in Syria in 2015. 

How did you get involved?

 Caught the news clip, got angry and responded effectively. 

What's the biggest take away from the fire department?

 There were a lot of personal moments with all kinds of 

 people in trouble and suffering. I didn't always want to see   what was in front of me but someone has to help and this 

 connection with strangers stays with me. 

What's the take away from adventuring?

 The climbing partnerships and experiencing the highest   levels of trust that we had in each other. 

What's the take away from Outward Bound?

 It was satisfying to help people discover what 

 I called the 'deeper you'. This happens when 

 you overcome a challenge you believed wasn't 

 possible and that spontaneous joy you 

 experience is the 'deeper you'. Give yourself 

 good reason to believe in yourself and everything 

 else follows. 

What's a fire fighter's worst day?

 When one of us doesn't go home. 


Any close calls?

 Not really but exposed to many high risk scenarios. 

Saving a life must demand the most from you.

 It does and it's intense for everyone. I dealt with it by being   hyper vigilante in my training and preparation. I wanted to   give people the best chance of rescue and recovery. 

What's life like in a fire hall?

 It has a lot of dynamic tension to it, you need to be relaxed   but also ready to perform at your best in the time it takes to   arrive on scene. 

People look up to fire fighters and see them as heroes.

 We're not heroes but well trained people. To me the heroes   are the ones who witness an emergency and act without   waiting for us to arrive. That impresses me, they're great   human beings. 

What's the best thing about being an artist?

 My mission statement for my art is, Be Honest Be   Expressive. Staying true to this has become a 

 meaningful human experience regardless of success. 

What's your songwriting process?

 Playing the guitar was a way to take my mind away from 

 professional responsibilities beginning with Outward Bound.   Songs would emerge and I came to believe in this process. 

The risk taking is in the emotional commitment?  

 Exactly, it's also where you find authenticity. 

How do you know which way to go with an idea? 

 I trust the first expressions, that being mood and tempo, 

 then I allow myself to settle into that characterization. 

Any tricks to help that along? 

 I'll create a click track that has percussive elements 

 common to the style to keep the vibe happening and   focused. 

How does the song come to life? 

 As scenes in the story form the way forward slowly emerges. 

 It can be a lot of effort or there are times when it happens   spontaneously and you just get out of the way and go with it. 

How do you define 'flow'?

 Concentrating without thinking. 

Coming up with original lyrics must be challenging.

 For me it begins with Be Honest Be Expressive. After that 

 you have to work at it. 

How do you know when a song is finished?

 When I'm satisfied that my best effort is on every part of the   production and the result excites me then I consider it to 

 be a 'musical conclusion' I can live with. 

Your process is really a journey.

 It's a journey of self discovery guided by intuition. 

 As the story takes shape deeper motivations, insights and   wisdoms surface. It elevates your personal growth. It's a trip   for sure. 

It sounds like it's something you really enjoy. 

 Definitely, the more fun I have the better I get, the better 

 I get the more fun I have. 

Have you ever had writers block?

 What's that? 

Where does all this art come from?

 My experience makes me believe it's genetic and random. 

 I was lucky to be born in a time when the opportunities to   record at home and film independently became available. 

How much did the challenges of life contribute?

 A lot. I started writing in my mid thirties and quickly   discovered that I had secrets I didn't know I had. It also   became apparent that adversity reveals rather than builds   character and if your character isn't coming through it 

 means it's time to grow up. 

Originality is hard to come by these days.

 Bringing anything original or innovative into the world is   exciting and having it be relatable is an unexpected but   welcome reward. Be Honest Be Expressive is what 

 guides me. 

What do you mean by Analog Love, Techno Mind?

 The first video camera I used was a rental from 7eleven and 

 as technology led us to digital I embraced it. The same is 

 true with the music, I started out recording on a boom box. 

Some refer to their songs as their children. 

 I get that but for me the songs are more like souvenirs 

 especially the 4 track recordings because they're so raw 

 and energized. There's a lot of nostalgia attached to all the 



How did Outdoor Living come about?

 The need was there as the one film I found on Hypothermia   consisted of do's & don't's which educates but doesn't   inspire learning. Dramatic action does this really well. 

What are the challenges of this method of teaching?

 Writing natural sounding dialogue and the believability 

 of the actors is what makes it work. 

Everyone is so authentic and the out takes are hilarious.

 They'd goof off right up to 'action' then they would drop 

 instantly into character like Clooney and Pitt. 

 Being yourself makes everything easier. 

The fact no one had any acting experience is notable.

 Things like speaking on the radio were second nature for   Brian & Bob and being themselves was real easy for Tyler 

 and Doug. 

Education through entertainment was a success.

 Definitely, signing broadcast agreements with 2 PBS   stations was gratifying. They were genuinely excited 

 about it and the broadcast party afterwards is memorable.   Everybody was proud of the team effort. 

And all the money is on the screen.

 That's right, fortunately during a lift evacuation on Whistler 

 I met the Patagonia rep, he asked what I was filming, I told 

 him about Outdoor Living and on the spot he committed 

 to sending full sets of gear for everyone. Good things can 

 come from good intentions. Not always but this time it did. 

What were the years at 'Outward Bound' like?

 It began in 1973 and went to1985 and I didn't want to be 

 anywhere else. Taking on the responsibility of people's 

 lives was the level of professionalism I was seeking. It's   meant a lifetime of humility and mountains of fun. 

Those years also led to an invitation to climb Mt. Everest.

 It did and they're also what got me the job with the Delta 

 Fire Department which meant giving up the Everest climb. 

Was that a hard decision?

 A little but by the time it came around I had already decided   to change directions

Any professional mountain misadventures?

 No, all my decisions stood up and everyone went home. 

Any personal mountain misadventures?

 Nothing serious until age 62 when I did a head jib off a cliff   while skiing and ended up fracturing my pelvis. 

Was that the end of skiing?

 No, it was a closed fracture and didn't require surgery   making it easier to recover. I was on my skis in 8 weeks.  

Any words for others pursuing their creativity?

 Be Honest Be Expressive and give yourself time to discover   your art and grow into your process. 

Are you a religious or spiritual person?

 Spiritual in the sense that I have a conscience and don't   need religion or a god. Ultimately I believe in the intelligence   of life and helping others. 

Do you have any home truths you want to share?

 I staked my 'claim', watched my side of the street and got it 

 right when it counted. That seemed to work. 

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